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Response to an email identified as coming from Paypal
Published on October 18, 2006 By jesseledesma In Internet
Ever since all this conflict with muslins and mexican immigrants started I have been concerned about the possible back lash from govenment entities and private companies against people of race.

About a week ago I recieved an email from some one claiming to work for PAYPAL. The emial is listed here after my respnse.

I am about as non-consequential as you can get. The american government has no case against me and no reason to fear me.

The email claims they are taking the action they are taking because of their cooperation with American federal govenment. Since I know I am of no consequence to any one, the only reason I can see for this email is my spanish last name.

Let me tell you I have very little patience for biggots and racist. Thats why I wrote the respnse I did to the email that was left as a contact email.

I post it here as a reminder of how easy it is to judge people just on superficial basis such as name and birth place.


MY RESPONSE
This is a response to an email that stated in its content that my account with your company is frozen because of cooperation with the American federal government.

I cannot see any reason why the American governemt would have any problem with me.

The only reason I can see that adminsitrators and/or staff of Paypal and Ebay may have trouble with me may be my spanish last name.

This is my response to your request for information to verify my identity.

Keep your racist and biggoted attitudes to your self. I neither need paypal nor Ebay.

I not will spend any of my money at comapnies that hold such racist attitudes.

EMAIL IN QUESTION

Dear jesus lopez,

PayPal as a regulated financial services company is required under law
to assess its customers against certain lists of individuals and
entities which have had sanctions imposed against them. PayPal as a
financial institution is required to comply with these regulations in
multiple jurisdictions where we do business.

Where a potential name match is identified, PayPal's policy is to lock
the account and request further identifying documentation. The decision
to lock your account has been taken solely by PayPal in line with its
compliance policy in regards to the legislation covering financial
sanctions

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause, however, in order to
regain access to your account, please follow these instructions and
provide the requested documentation within the next seven (7) days:

1. Provide a copy of a government-issued photograph identification
(i.e. passport, driver's license) that provides date of birth; AND
2. Provide a copy of a utility bill verifying your address; AND
3. Include your email address on all copies; AND
4. Fax the information Attention: Compliance to +303-395-2802; OR
5. Mail the documents to the following address:

PayPal Inc, Attention: Compliance
P.O. Box 45950
Omaha, NE 68145
United States

PayPal currently does not accept scanned documents. Reply to this e-mail
with all questions at BoEappeal@paypal.com.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Sincerely,
Michael
PayPal Compliance Department
PayPal, an eBay Company



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on Oct 23, 2006

I still think my left testicle is safe...

The logical course of action is to send a 'please explain' communication to PayPal....through a direct channel, and NOT through a response link from that email.

If it is legitimate then PayPal's actions 'may' need to be forwarded to the relevant Office for Anti-Discrimination/whatever.

If it is NOT legitimate then it is up to PayPal to approach the FBI [or equivalent].

The rest is, as Baker said somewhat earlier...a whole bunch of opinionated blow-hards trying to score points off each other.

As long as it all doesn't devolve into a slanging match then all's well....

on Oct 23, 2006
I understand what you are saying Jafo. I still lean towards seeking responsible, state provided legal advice and help when dealing with such matters. Calling PayPal directly leaves the matter unreported and Jesus without valuable advice from a responsible state consumer protection agency.
on Oct 23, 2006
did you bother to read the rest before jumping on those keys?


Yes. I also noted:

Perhaps it is as well, because it is what I 1st intended


of which you cut off the first words. "Perhaps it is as well" that it was accidentally posted.


Back to the OP: I find it mildly interesting that a company obeying the laws of the United States would have the blame placed solely upon them, whereas if it were a direct intervention by the US Government, you'd have no issue with it.

But shrewder eyes have probably ferretted out the scam bit of it, so I won't belabor that point.
on Oct 24, 2006
Okay, before you lose your mind call paypal or log into your account and see if it's really frozen. If it is you must consider the possibility that there are hundreds of people that have your name. Your particular name in general could be causing the problem, because of something done in that name. I say this because I had a similar experience recently. After speaking with the companies loss prevention department we worked out the problem together. This was alot of trouble & tried my patience getting to the correct dept. to solve the problem. I knew it was not me, & they expressed their belief in me but.......I had to provide all the same documentation as you have been asked to provide plus copies of voided checks etc. I was allowed to fax all documentation without any problem. (Let me say NEVER send any info to anyone unless YOU have initiated the contact with the reputable company & are sure of who you are dealing with.) I waited 7 weeks until my account was unlocked and I got several apologies. I know it can be an aggravation but the good must sometimes suffer b/c of the bad. Oh, and by the way I bitched and moaned the entire time I had to go through this lol. I wish you lots of luck with this matter
P.S. Never clink any links in suspicious emails & do not reply to them. Contact the company via their forms after going to the site and logging in. Look under support for phone numbers to contact them in person to keep yourself & your info safe.
on Oct 24, 2006
jesseledesma

and readers of this thread (excluding LW)

Please accept my apology for what I am about to post here - this is not an attempt to hijack your thread – however since I and some assume you have solved your problem here and are not really taking part in the thread anymore – I am presuming you will not object – if you do please feel free to delete the post – I will understand.


NOTE TO LW.

ALL JUsers that we're just a bunch of mindless ass-lickers,


For your mindless manic inability to understand - THIS PSYCHO BEATCH FROM HELL SAYS TO ANOTHER PSYCHO BEATCH FROM HELL:- (note BEATCH is your word not mine)

THIS IS OFF A POST I APOLOGIZED FOR YET - SOMETHING YOU AND CERTAIN OTHERS SEEM INCAPABLE OF ACCEPTING so bite me! My apology did not and still does not extend to FS - so bite me.

Note to Jen: No, I did not read your article


Then take your own ill advised "running off at the mouth" and practice what you preach.

will continue to avoid your threads.


Do as you please - you will not chase me off JU, I will continue to post whether anybody or nobody reads what I post - I WILL NOT BE DRIVEN OFF JU by you or certain friends of yours.

why not use the edit feature


QUITE SIMPLY BECAUSE WITHIN SECONDS OF POSTING - ANOTHER REPLY WENT UP - or does that fact blow right over your head? You cannot edit a post after someone has posted after your reply. Again Bite Me.

I know your secret, jen, we all do now. You just love to see your name on screen, over and over and over again, even if you're simply repeating yourself.


Grow up LW not all people are like you and some who in the past who have run "whore-a-thons" among other things and begged for points and some who have been - what’s the word – restricted for it.

You keep dictating to me that

I SHOULD GET TO KNOW EVERYONE ON JU & GET TO KNOW THEIR PERSONALITIES BEFORE MAKING JUDGEMENTS

Well I say to you: - practice what you dictate!

HOW ABOUT YOU GET TO KNOW ME? Get to know the "newbies" too. They will make waves in YOUR little pond occassionally and upset your boat every so often.

Just because you have been here longer than I, does not mean I HAVE to like or respect anyone I do not like or respect.

It does not mean I have to hold court to your MEGALOMANIAC EGO.

Get used to the idea that not everyone tows your line of bull.

Quite frankly I do not give a flying shit if EVERYONE on JU is or has been alienated by me and by the additional fuel you add to the fire.

THE FACT THAT I APOLOGISED TO THEM ALL INCLUDING YOU - AND THE APPARENT INABILITY OF CERTAIN MEMBERS TO DROP THEIR HOSTILITY, CHILDISH CARCASS PICKING AND VERBAL DIAHORREA ATTACKS ON ME ON CERTAIN THREADS IS INDICATIVE OF THE POINT I TRIED TO MAKE IN THE FIRST PLACE. You and they must feel so clean and self righteous!

WHEN I AM WRONG - I APOLOGISE – SOMETHING YOU AND SOME OTHERS ARE OBVIOUSLY QUITE INCAPABLE OF DOING. This makes me a better person than you IMHO - not that it matters to you or anyone else - just thought I would tell you!

on Oct 24, 2006
on Oct 24, 2006

Oh, please....don'cha just love the JU crossover threads?

Can't people be civil?...

on Oct 24, 2006
Oh, please....don'cha just love the JU crossover threads?













on Oct 24, 2006

Go on! 'av it!

Fuzzy pulls up a cozy chair ready for the evening's entertainment

on Oct 24, 2006
Fuzzy pulls up a cozy chair ready for the evening's entertainment


   enjoy

You want to watch the carcass picking she is famous for along with her cohorts the you will have to go to a thread entitled "pre apologies" by LW
on Oct 24, 2006
Bichur go easy on the popcorn now!   
on Oct 24, 2006
\me is still giggling from the use of the word Twat on page 1...
on Oct 24, 2006
me is still giggling from the use of the word Twat on page


yep some pc dunders really make pc blunders!  

The vulture fest is underway apparently - I am blacklisted from the thread so I cannot respond to and fight off the uncouth vile vulture that loves to bully people and pick off their carcasses.

So I shall carry on nonetheless, but you guys go and enjoy the show.   

on Oct 24, 2006
on Oct 24, 2006
This entire thread is insane. From wo to go, you're all completely mad.   
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